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Jonathan, your post highlights an incredibly important and often overlooked issue in today’s real estate market: the proliferation of appraisal waivers and the resulting data cancer thats infecting property valuations. Sacramento Real Estate Appraiser 0
The brokers were difficult, espeically the “pre-comps”… but it was pretty cool getting paid at the door – in advance!! Everyone knew who the 2-3 crooked Appraisers were in the area, especially the MB’s. In the end the Appraisers I knew were cheating have taken their cash and moved on to better things.
Except for the fact that the home inspection photos will also be analyzed and input in that database, along with all the appraisal photos from the properties you selected as comps, as they were once subject homes themselves. In reply to ej. Here comes the automation that the big fintechs are already using, now centralized.
I actually think the 4th appraisal used a couple superior comps in terms of quality of construction and 3 car garages. Appraisal 1 and 3 seemed decent. A lot of smaller GLA comps were used though in comparison to the subject. In reply to CRAIG PREECE. Yeah I saw that too.
Still in favor of the in person comps pictures requirements. Amc’s have taken advantage of these requirements, which is why a substantial portion of simple appraisal work has now been shifted over to realty persons instead. Quite often so is taking photos of comps in the same high density housing areas.
CU also has NOT visited the subject property nor the comparables and has not determined or provided evidence that the “comps” that are better than the ones initially provided in the report.
One appraiser’s vision of the (near) future: Imagine having your own privately hosted Large Language Model (LLM) or soon-to-debut Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) model. This in-house appraisal tool will input and analyze all your photos, on-site video footage, and LiDAR measured dwelling information. How much money you will make!
Robinson appraiser is TK. It was also in a different neighborhood than the higher comps. Second appraiser used comps of fully renovated homes in an area which sells for a lot more because it’s revitalized. If the appraiser had a free attorney like the Plaintiff, appraiser would have won. Same reporter.
Ralphy is busy making $300 per appraisal and thinks he’s getting rich. He should be earning $700 to $1,200 per appraisal. I wouldn’t take comp photos and make a trip to the county records office for $300. In reply to Spencer Paul.
There are several filing forms involved and depending on the existing documentation, owners may need to engage with a certified business appraiser to independently declare a final value for tax purposes. In many cases, this would be tangible property only, such as real estate, buildings, machinery & equipment, and personal property.
An appraisal is an opinion (among other things) of … Scope of Work The contract The neighborhood The site, including H & BU The improvements (condition, deficiencies, adverse conditions and conformity) The selection and adjustment of comparable sales The analysis of prior subject and comp sales Market Value indicated by the Sales Comparison (..)
Or maybe he lives in the heart of the city and takes elevators to provide appraisal services on perfect square boxes with plentiful comps, mere minutes away from the home office. 1-2 hours inspection and comps. Two and three a day appraisers using typing services, outsourcing, comps sharing, click and go pre write.
In other words you believe that if an appraiser is incompetent and utilizes wrong comps, data, etc. In reply to hammering hank. then he must be racist/biased! smh Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity 1
A picture is worth a thousand words but an in person visit (subject/comps) is worth a million. I had a comp in a neighborhood I was well familiar with and after viewing the listing photos I yelled at the agent (in my head of course) where the hell are the pictures of the mountains the house was facing. She had not included one.
An appraiser just asked for help in an older thread. FNMA forcing a repurchase and subsequent state complaint because appraiser cross comped across a school district boundary a half mile away. [link] The hits keep on coming.
I believe our appraiser and the selling agent committed Fraud. 1) the comps were issued by selling agent, 2) appraiser used comps that were approx. This house is a disaster and appraiser blatantly lied on condition. Also, ignored a comp that was 4 houses down from ours that sold with in 90 days prior to ours.
Can’t the appraiser recognize that using two-year-old sales comp’s have meaning and be part of the value conclusion? When these two figures are sorted, they represent stuff, which can be interpreted and verified as meaningful or not. Did it close in 45 days or in ten months?
…a brilliant ‘work around’ to solve the subject & comps adjustment issues, which Fannie Mae thinks is no big deal… Appraisers, I was chatting with an appraiser buddy last week about the ANSI measuring dilemma we all face when doing Conventional lending reports, which ultimately will wind up with Fannie Mae.
The study also shows the appraisal was the LOWEST scored item on the list of discriminatory practices… On February 23, 2022, NAR published the “2022 Snapshot of Race and Home Buying in America” report. Related Posts: Appraisers Don't Use Race Appraisers don’t use race. The study noted that for those who said they witnessed.
Definitely not an appraiser or real estate expert. No one has seen the second appraisal. I saw the most important parts of the first appraisal and ran comps. The first appraisal looks like market value to me. In reply to hammering hank. No one can make that statement. ” 2
I think perhaps the Appraisal Institute needs to come out with a new dictionary. So, for my next several appraisal, I left the square feet blank on the comps stating that nationally the figures were wrong and the buyers did not know the square footage of the house and therefore it had no bearing on the value. Sign and deliver.
The comps/market and analysis speaks for itself. Is the analysis sound, are the comps conditionally and locationally adequate and relevant to the subject. Who’s concerned about ethnicity or race and how can one appraise a property on that basis? It’s not the appraisers who request that photos of people, ethnic art, etc.
Because we refuse to sign off on their inflated figures which don’t comp in the market. Bpo’s are a totally inadequate substitute for a real appraisal, even a desktop. That’s why I still to this day comp search everything and simply decline orders if I can’t see an avenue to success.
Do work that other appraiser’s are not willing to do because they want to cherry pick work that are located in a single county that they live in and don’t have to drive more then 20 minutes for the subject and comps. This is going to be the market for sometime, of which I do agree with you. Expand and find new clients.
I understand your explanation, but many borrowers don’t read the report in much detail and the $700 +/- paid can always be justified by the AMC as just a appraisal processing fee. They control the fees, turn times, bidding process, comp selection, adjustments, scope and most other appraisal methods.
Im so tired of amateurs claiming ‘driving the comps’ is inefficient or a waste of time. In reply to Dallas Kiedrowski on Facebook. Clearly they haven’t a clue as to what specifically they are supposed to be looking for. Yet they continue to undermine our profession with short sighted, poorly informed suggestions.
This extends beyond just the comps in your grid to every single comparable in your model. I use True Adjustmnet Trends from Homeputer. Remarkably, it doesn’t require photos to assess and rate the condition and quality of comparables.
A few years ago I put out a poll to appraisers that work in my area and similar areas asking 3 questions with the possible answer of always/sometimes/never Q1 – do you pull the as built and OSS data prior to your site observation of the property? I work in an area where onsite sewage systems (OSSs) are common.
Some appraisers search purely by price or some other attribute that may not drive value. The smart ones identify the submarket and draw a continuous radius until they see the best 3 comps (we don’t need 6) – At this point you are visually studying the MLS descriptions to get the best. Let’s start at the basics.
And if the house (comp) has been totally renovated since purchase than the photo it is misleading to the reader of the report. In reply to Dallas Kiedrowski on Facebook. exactly, we can see any location or view differences from the plat maps reviewed.
‘If an appraiser were to do that, it results in double dipping the adjustments if any other adjustments are made in the grid.’ Three comps of a matching model in the same neighborhood, sales prices 100, 125, 150. Comps selections represent one better, one worse, one similar. In reply to WAD. Quite right.
Initially they had to sift out the unethical appraisers from the ethical ones, in a climate where ethical appraisers dominated the field. Appraisers whom were identified as not being pliable were hassled out with insane volumes of stipulations, revision requests, fee and turn time inquiries, to the point engagement was untenable.
Imagine being an english professor and still being required to take english comp 101 for literally the rest of your life, and continue to pay for it full price every time. Next up for the appraisal industry; Having to retest for your appraisal license every few years, or face licensing downgrades or involuntary relinquishment.
Other than cookie cutter assignments where an appraiser has already inspected the subdivision, neighborhood, and surrounding area, including recently constructed similar models, these type assignments are undermining basic appraisal due diligence and competent information gathering for credible results.
It said, Comp 2, an older, Traditional dwelling, is in the subject neighborhood…” I am baffled. We were asked today to remove the term “Traditional” from commentary about a comparable.
AS NOTED IN BILL’S REPLY: “If a ROV is requested, an explanation is required from the supplying party/parties as to why the new sales are superior to the appraiserscomps.” All that tells people is that Appraisers can be bought! They are defaming all the good Appraisers Reputations.
The appraisal reports included are not from this Connelly/Motts v Lanham case. 3 comps and 1 active leave little ground to stand solidly on in court. Is there any means that we can get those to review? I’m glad I’m not having to defend such work.
I’ve been appraising for 40 years. I mean, you made $50 more than usual on this appraisal, so please do $1,000 more work for us! Remember, SJW’s and DEi’ers, oops, I mean, appraisers, you don’t count! I’ve noticed that every time “things are going to get better”, they don’t.
The whole point made by the GSEs for having PDCs and hybrid appraisals is so that the educated and experienced appraiser did not “waste” time driving to a subject property and then to take all the comp pics. hr the non-appraiser in the hybrid model is making more per hour than the appraiser at $25/hr.
Or we could go back to mortgage bankers and appraisers having direct communication and meaningful professional relationships, better two way accountability. They could ask for a comp search before ordering the appraisal, so the borrower would know ahead of time a reasonable value range of their property’s market value.
During the refi boom, most of my work was very difficult rural work where I’d commonly drive 300-400 miles inspecting the property and taking comp photos. But, now it’s back to “normal” They want to pay the same for a long distance rural appraisal as they do for a house next door. Thus, I don’t bid them.
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